This ought to be a lesson whether it sounds TOO good to be real it's not TRUE.
This website labored for around 2 days perfect. Then site went lower for the days sometimes, authored discovered moving servers..it still wasn't working. Then your ftp wasnt trying to edit things i had up already.
I authored said excitedly I needed my money-back his or her policy states... no reply... still NO reply.. I've since moved my website to another place. BUT no refund... plus they wont even write back. I've filed using the BBB Hopefully works.. JUST dont do things i did and loose your hard earned money... RUN As quickly as you are able to... they likewise have many names they're going by.. parents clients are HELPING HANDS in Phoenix. Keep the money....

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The majority of us do not have to join individuals places to understand it isn't true, it's known as LOGIC and customary SENSE!!


And there is no such factor as "unlimited traffic" either...I love individuals hosting places, they're as an IQ test, your dumb, you receive burned.


Individuals like you never read these forums prior to signing up anywhere, and you think your likely to come here and warn us later, I'd never enroll in a place which has limitless bandwidth or perhaps a once lifetime payment, plain stupidity.
[QUOTE]Initially published by Greg:
[B]The majority of us do not have to join individuals places to understand it isn't true, it's known as LOGIC and customary SENSE!!


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True... this is actually the very first time I discovered this forum. Not for insufficient trying.. while looking for a webhost Used to do some investigation at these host sites. Which do carry this hostingplans.com like a client.

1http://www.hostinvestigator.com//2http://www.hostindex.com/ / 3http://www.webhostdir.com// 4http://www.webhostmagazine.com
Because of the consistent ad and foreseeing these were responsible resources I opted for it.. I dont feel grounds for anyone's anger towards me for attempting to tell somebody who has done exactly the same research with similar conclusion.
Haven written for their support team 5 occasions before I registered and taken care of my website. An acceptable person would think they simply happened across a good deal.
This kind of forum didnt show on my looks for information, just showing all the details could be available.. but does Not good should you cant think it is.
(I happened into that one just today)
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Limitless never has and not is going to be totally capable... heh, thats only the way existence is ..

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Silly,

Greg was a little harsh along with a tad condescending and overlooked something you pointed out. It's possible to search for sites like that one but might not locate them over time to complete worthwhile.

You are right. It's a reasonable assumption that certain simply happened upon a great deal. One becomes a lot more discerning and skeptical following the first bad experience or two (or even more) and being lied to I understand somebody who has had 18 different hosts and never found a high quality one yet. (I'm going to tell him relating to this site tomorrow).

You've already discovered a few of the lies some companies tell, and you will find a lot more. The BBB will not help because it is doubtful the organization likes you its status. Try the condition attorney's office rather. They've clout. The BBB does not.

As you've discovered, individuals rating sites are useless. Compensated advertising guarantees high rankings. My present and potential ex-host is extremely ranked with all the rating companies I discovered. You can be assured it's not warranted. They are not terrible, and may be great. It is simply that whenever there's a big change, they need to get it done, plus they aren't fast. When they spent the cash on the user interface rather than advertising, individuals rankings may be genuine.

Make use of this site (yet others enjoy it) to understand and find the best host. You will find some available, though they certainly appear to stay in the minority. Most appear like used vehicle salesperson praising the things they promise, even when it's on paper.

Consider the good side. All of this is area of the chance to learn and may provide you with nearer to getting a good host now you understand how.
Silly,
I too was burned by HostingPlans.com. It too was my first attempt for hosting having a company. I even went to date regarding request some buddies which have online companies by what Hostingplans needed to offer. These were impressed and wanted to be aware what I figured of these basically registered.

I registered, also got burned, and also have since learned the lesson. I believe what Greg does not seem to comprehend is that you will find others going to this forum like we that require this type of information. Otherwise, this forum wouldn't have to exist.

I have since canceled my account with Hostingplans, and disputed the double charges they provided to my charge card. I think you'll compensated having a charge card and never check/money order. A minimum of you'll be able to dispute the costs using your bank. Keep all of the documentation in your dealings with hostingplans.

Duster's fact is excellent. The BBB no more has got the clout it had. The DA for that condition (AZ within this situation) is the more sensible choice. Should you go down that path plus they want more good examples, I'd be happy to assist. I additionally have emails from the couple other clients of Hostingplans concentrating on the same encounters.

tk
[QUOTE]Initially published by tk:
[B]Silly,
I too was burned by HostingPlans.com.
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Im sorry you had been too.. and just support on your part and Duster. I truly am looking to get this internet factor lower... meaning how to locate sites LIKE that one before I actually do anything... I have undergone several hosting places including one which my website only turned up on their own computer systems... so when I said excitedly which was way too limited a crowd they DID refund my money.. every one has... Its unfortunate more people cant find sites such as this before they're going with something...

Just wondering HOW after i place in key phrases to locate good webhosts...or bad ones This website doesn't appear... I dont know The Way I came...but Im glad Used to do... I've this like a link now on my small page HOPEFULLY to discourage someone from losing money...

NOW Used to do just get mail from BBB from Phoenix saying their connection with Hosting plans (received by BBB May 2) states
"We can make all of the necessary plans to refund all individuals who have been unsatisfied using the services made. W were dealing with a time of upgrades and changes in service, therefore we were slowed down within the processing of demands. We'll make sure that both sides receive the things they asked for, and can have all the feaures taken care of quickly.
Appreciate your attention within this matter,
Andre Skeete"

What's amusing relating to this is.. How quickly BBB authored for them.. plus they have a reply... where they've no communication using the clients to state this... but still take sites "up in five min" I have no idea how they may pull off it? And So I guess they've their standard letter to transmit to BBB..... but exactly how can they be away by using it? but when it normally won't adhere to the things they tell the BBB...I suppose they'll just send another letter? Appears like We ought to possess some defense against this....

Presently Im with Burlee.com and repair continues to be excellent, I love that my website expires and stays up.. and that i can edit it anytime visit use my ftp it really works... email support and within hrs I've a solution, and thats all I want inside a host! the various components I dont like could they be nickle and cent ya with custom error page montly costs/password protection costs/and so forth... however i guess if you would like quality thats what you need to do..... it's limitless...... Laugh... but my website is not very popular Im gonna get 100s of 1000's of hits...nor have i got 1000's of meg of space I personally use up... nevertheless its MINE... =)
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I am glad it appears as if you might be obtaining a refund. The Bbb offered an objective much like that one lengthy prior to the Internet was around. Whenever a consumer registers a complaint, the BBB contacts the company and provides them an opportunity to resolve it. They keep an eye on final amount of complaints and break them lower by resolved and conflicting. This really is only effective for companies that worry about their status, not for that charlatans and crooks, the fly-by-nights. Thus, for that crooked companies available (off or on the internet), it might be totally ineffective.

I too sought out sites like that one this past year before I transformed hosts again, and just found the compensated advertising ones. Actually, I would start one after i happened across that one. I discovered a couple of others, though I am inclined to favor that one. That's partially why I make information on it, since i have worry about it.

I have been very effective for my website and many clients with early positioning in a number of major search engines like google. I might give that one a crack. If they're receptive to adding the coding, assistance others steer clear of the truly terrible companies available by finding this website first and learning the reality.
Glad to listen to situations are better, Silly. I would not believe what Hostingplans told the BBB, though. They appear with an excuse for everything. Here are a few others they have explained (not exact quotes but I'll paraphrase):
- we could not react to your support question becuase i was too busy establishing many new accounts
- we'd never deliberately charge your card multiple occasions, it should be a mistake from your billing department.

Exactly what a joke! I've got a difficult time thinking they have got that lots of people registering together. And, in case your current clients are less important than your future ones, well...
Also, billing department, schmilling department. This Can Be A FATHER-Boy 'BUSINESS'. Henry Skeete is Andre's Father. Both of them have several domain names (including some XXX). There's no billing department --it is a two guy shop, just how can there is a billing department!

Sorry, did not mean to rant.
Anyway, I have since gone to live in VeoWeb.net, and am happy there to date. (Silly, they do not nickel and cent ya.) So, if you are thinking about a brand new host, I would recommend considering them.
(shameless plug for brownie points)

I additionally accept everyone, this and a minimum of another forum happen to be invaluable to get details about hosts and things to consider.
...How you can tell others....

tk
[QUOTE]Initially published by tk:
[B]Glad to listen to situations are better, Silly. I would not believe what Hostingplans told the BBB, though.
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No I dont totally believe them.. however i figure if BBB keeps any account of complaints ... it could send up a warning sign..and possibly someone may either close em lower... or ask them to Quit taking new customers before they take proper care of that old ones.. I filed mine online... just www.bbb.com with no stamp needed.. and you're simply in the puter already.. should you havent filed already TK you need to..teams of individuals are compensated focus on more the other squeaky wheel..

I believe the best way this kind of place out onto the folks.. would be to have links on our pages into it.. then when our links hit the search engines like google we take it around.
I've my new page track of this website like a link.. and when anybody wants that helped me to out by distributing news or their encounters onto it.. message me and Ill ad all of them with your title as information reference.
http://www.sillyone.com/help4u/webhosts.htm

Figure Why don't you? help people out, plus they is going to do exactly the same for you personally.... theoretically anyway! &ltwink&gt

BTW I've nothing against porno sites themselves...I personally don't like that irresponcible grown ups in addition to youngsters are uncovered to things they've no biz seeing.. and also you cant escape it.. I even visited a Tripod site.. and also the "pop up" was for porno..after which began getting junk e-mail "teen porno" mail... and that i would a homework help site....needles to state I didn't ad that connect to my homework help/homeschool pages...

Used to do email Tripod and also the site owner.. neither responded..

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[QUOTE]Initially published by sillyone.com:
[B]This ought to be a lesson whether it sounds TOO good to be real it's not TRUE.++++++++++++++++*****

HEY understand this email I suppose I finally got their attention...Only been asking for reimbursement since February/March of the year...without any email contact.. Description of how the work out how EMAIL works...

"""Subj: Copyright Breach/Slander
Date:05/09/2000 3:01:03 PM Central Daylight Time


Hi, this message is tell you that you're in direct breach from the code of conduct concerning the organization Hostingplans.com. You've replicated their website in it's whole and also have made slanderous remarks against the organization with caused by attempting to lead them to lose business. This cannot and won't be tolerated. I had been informed that you simply were an old client, coupled with some issues with us throughout time i was making upgrades and changes to the servers. Throughout this era mail was lost, and never retrieved.

Whatever financial funds you taken care of the service from Hostingplans.com is going to be paid back for you should you send your mailing address. Also this really is direct observe that when the pages that are in direct copyright breach and also the slander not removed, further action is going to be taken. As mentioned anything you compensated Hostingplans.com is going to be returned for you since you weren't pleased with service.

Thanks greatly!

Andre Skeete
Hostingplans.com Representative""""
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Well I figure I'll answer this with similar focus on me... and neglected..when they sue me.. .well PROVE its wrong... that's what slander means in the end.
The counter suit might be interesting TK you curious about a number of this?

==since he did request my billing addy... Used to do answer him...with my addy...and can let ya determine if I have a refund...


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I truly wish these hosts would discover the distinction between slander and libel - particularly if they will bypass making claims such as this. The next time let them know to obtain their lawyer contact you rather than a "representative". Baloney such as this really irritates me about some hosts....
Funny how now he signs his message like a mere representative, but when you attend:
(well I would place the URL for their About page, but appears like their server is lower.)
He reviews themself because the Leader and founder.

The content is most likely all of the usual smoke and mirrors.
Annette is appropriate, simply tell him to possess his lawyers contact you rather than delivering threating, harrassing emails. Incidentally, I saw somewhere on one of these simple forums someone saying something they welcomed the suit against that individual, so that they could consequently counter-sue without costs or something like that like this.

I'd wager, should you said excitedly to cancel your bank account in February/Marly, and sent them numerous emails (since that's the only method they provide you with to talk with them!) letting them know this and also to refund your hard earned money, you need to no more be bound by their code of conduct blah blah blah. Therefore he does not possess a leg to face on --not too he did to begin with.

I believe he requires a phsycological exam to find out if he's skitzo! (Eventually he's the leader and founder, next he's the billing department, later he's only a representative as though he were an attorney for themself.)

Simply tell him to place his pennies where his mouth is.
Initially published by tk:
Simply tell him to place his pennies where his mouth is.[/B]
WELL I simply got an e-mail from him today too.. wow shall we be held ever feeling special now..he explained that my refund had been processed TODAY.....and also to take my pages lower...
Used to do answer him which i would take my pages lower....~~after i received his check.. also it removed my bank~~ and that i will require Individuals pages lower...so if this sounds like true and that he has sent my refund.. first Ill allow you to are all aware.. when it clears.. (ever the optomist arent I?)
BUT Let me tell all what went down...and also the measures it required to obtain mine like a warning

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http://www.sillyone.com
It may have been an awful idea to provide them your address, however i guess they might have it in the whois record anyway when they were clever enough. We do hope you get the refund

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Initially published by sillyone.com:
BUT Let me tell all what went down...and also the measures it required to obtain mine like a warning
That's 1 / 2 of why I am on these forums!
I've become a provisional refund from my bank from the money Hostingplans stole from me, when they complete the analysis. I would not rely on Hostingplans to follow-through on their own commitment of reimbursement, they provided me exactly the same promise and haven't yet discover their whereabouts really act onto it. The only real action being taken is as simple as my bank against them.

Sure is simple to create empty promises, is not it! Particularly when you do not worry about your word.

Incidentally, concerning the address factor, they ought to have previously been with them from the time you registered...
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It may have been an awful idea to provide them your address, however i guess they might have it in the whois record anyway when they were clever enough. We do hope you get the refund

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WELL very long time no hear.. thought I fell from the planet.. well... It might be over..soon... I reported these to the BBB plus they authored back a yeah yeah we're focusing on it.. gave them 2 several weeks..couple of emails saying first they sent it, they were focusing on it.. got totally frustrated and reported again to BBB.. who explained which i should contact the Ftc.. WELL... you know what?
YOU Wager YA... I acquired a cheque for 200 dollars... plus they didn't remember I registered for that 300 buck one and therefore are delivering me a different one for 100! SOOOOO.... possibly the combo of this.. and also the pages I've about the subject all around the web.. labored... SOOO I needed to return here by way of thanking everybody! and allow you to know =)

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Silly,
Glad to listen to you are finally having your $$$ back. It is simply bad their business practices are so that they'd rather provide very poor service and support, take more time on their own *other* sites, and spew more lies about "check's within the mail", than being professional and supply a genuine product and repair.

The next time we are in Phoenix we ought to visit and thank them for teaching us what the foot of the barrel website hosting companies could be like!


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Initially published by tk:
Silly,
Glad to listen to you are finally having your $$$ back. It is simply bad their business practices are so that they'd rather provide very poor service and support, take more time on their own *other* sites, and spew more lies about "check's within the mail", than being professional and supply a genuine product and repair.

The next time we are in Phoenix we ought to visit and thank them for teaching us what the foot of the barrel website hosting companies could be like!


LOL that might be funny.. I dont think he'd have it..should you message me private Ill give back the e-mail he sent me... you will not accept is as true...particularly since someone stated he was interested in keeping the porno sites up?? Have no idea if that's true...but a rumor...

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I had been the main one speaking about the subject (he and the father (Henry)) most likely investing additional time on their own porno sites (perform a whois on their own surname --skeete-- to determine the domain names) than supplying the correct service and support.

I suppose that will also explain why they might afford to own house away on their own hosting plans.


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