Duster,

In your site I saw that you simply block junk e-mail. What exactly are you using to get this done and how can i have it?

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Mike Astin
WebAuthorities
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You will find several stages in obstructing junk e-mail from coming at the server or passing through. An essential step would be to make certain sending is closed. Otherwise, it leaves your server available to relay rape. You will find steps together with that, like POP authentication before SMTP. With sendmail 8.9.3, closed relays finally grew to become the default. Now, if all individuals servers in China, Korea and japan would close their relays (together with any others anywhere), spammers would need to emerge in to the open.

With sendmail, entering domain names, or individual addresses to become blocked, within the access file (and producing the access.db file) can block them. That same file makes it possible for IP addresses to relay, reject junk e-mail, or provide them with a 550 message, and you will specify the content (like "we don't accept junk e-mail here").

You will find other tips, like not accepting any address @yourdomain. Some spammers constitute addresses and delivered to a listing of domain names (like "buyer@yourdomain.com")

You will find two MAPS services most hosts should find useful in obstructing junk e-mail. RSS (Relay Junk e-mail Stopper) blocks junk e-mail in the open relays within the MAPS list. DUL blocks junk e-mail from dial-up accounts. Neither could well be prone to block legitimate e-mail.

Their one questionable services are RBL, and enough continues to be stated on that here already.

You will find also tips that may prevent a person's address from being gathered from internet sites. Just like a lot of things, prevention is better. I'll e-mail you with one tip. I understand spammers have attempted cropping addresses from my diving site from a few of the junk e-mail I acquired during my drop box. I added another twist that actually messes them up. Heh heh heh

Oh, and there is the "poison" script. Once they scan your server, it creates a lot of false e-mail addresses and may confound their spambots. Hehe heheh heheh

Squashing slugs could be fun and revenge is really a dish best offered cold. hee hee hee hee


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MikeA,

It appears as if you are with Alabanza correct? If that's the case then a method to prevent junk e-mail, but still give your customers the option on what they need to get and the things they're doing not would be to provide sample procmail records to bar mail based on subject, from, to, ect. Procmail is extremely effective and for me, will be a lot better then you definitely or another person determining what email your customers will get.

Scott
Mike,

There's another measure that may be taken. Keep in mind that with junk e-mail, just like a lot of things, an oz of prevention may be worth one pound of cure.

You are able to deny use of your website by any junk e-mail site, or junk e-mail friendly site, on the MAPS RBL, using the mod_access_rbl module like a superset alternative for mod_access That will help prevent spammers from cropping addresses out of your site (or server) by denying them access altogether.
http://www.blars.org/mod_access_rbl.html

I respect the best of anybody to not use tools like the MAPS RBL. MAPS does warn from the effects. Additionally, it works together with nominees towards the RBL to encourage them to make changes. Even large clothes like America online, which itself blocks lots of junk e-mail, will be in the RBL a few occasions. Basically, what is needed to become taken off the RBL would be to respect the privileges of others as shown by compliance with methods that reflect it.

However, you've some companies, like Yesmail and Harris Interactive, who junk e-mail and don't desire to stop, who consider the RBL as disturbing their trade. MAPS thinks that any transmission of e-mail ought to be mutually consentual. Spammers don't, they would like to impose on their own others, overriding their privileges.

Things I don't respect are individuals who believe that simply because they might want to receive e-mail from spammers, that nobody else has the authority to block junk e-mail. They argue about the authority to choose, yet would deny that to others, such as the 40% of ISPs which use RBL.

Individuals people are members of the junk e-mail problem. They're junk e-mail sympathizers, despite any protestations on the contrary. In psychology, in abuse situations, the word used is enablers. This type of person junk e-mail enablers.

I understand you browse the portion of my website that mentions it, which means you know you will find simple ways to allow them to receive their junk e-mail that don't hinder the privileges of individuals who don't desire to receive it. However, to allow them to state that we ought to all need to endure junk e-mail since it might be bothersome on their behalf the inability to receive junk e-mail is completely selfish. It might be hypocritical once they discuss the authority to choose.

A large a part of why is RBL (and you will find others like ORBS' own list) jobs are pressure from peers. The greater ISPs along with other servers which use RBL, the higher the pressure on the likes of Yesmail and Harris to prevent bombarding, to make use of just the confirmed subscriber list, and also to be ethical.

Besides the proven fact that the Harris suit appears to become much more about competition having a marketing firm America online is the owner of, if your greater number of ISPs used RBL (MAPS, ORBS, yet others), say 80 or 90%, we may avoid seeing any suits whatsoever. Semi-legitimate the likes of Yesmail and Harris would stop bombarding period. They'd make use of the confirmed subscriber method or perhaps be inaccessible to basically ten or twentyPercent of servers.

If this involves ISPs and junk e-mail, you are either area of the problem or area of the solution. There's no middle ground. For those who have a wide open relay, you're accomodating spammers. If you're making excuses for spammers and would deny the privileges of individuals who would like to receive only mutually consentual mail, you're a large area of the problem.

Used properly, pressure from peers can function miracles.

Incidentally, before I gone to live in my very own server, I discovered my Ip was at the RBL, not particularly, but included in a block of addresses at media3.net (my last host). Apparently, another domain they host had spammed, Media 3 required no actions to avoid it again, as well as their block of addresses were RBLd. It had been a quick and easy factor for my Ip to obtain from the list.

So, I only say all of the above with a little more working experience than most here. I did not whine and complain (as I have seen some in nanae do), I required action. MAPS handled it rather expediently and that i don't have any complaints, despite the fact that I had been certainly one of individuals corollary sufferers they make reference to.


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Personally i think compelled to talk about my exhultation. Tomorrow is a week since i have enabled MAPS features to bar junk e-mail. Since that time, I've become zero junk e-mail, not really a single piece. You most likely can't imagine how delighted I'm. It feels GREAT!

I understand from experience that the majority of the junk e-mail I'd receive was sent through open relays (relay rape), therefore the MAPS RSS and DUL are obstructing everything, which makes up about the majority of the junk e-mail I did previously get.

A really couple of spammers junk e-mail using their own servers, as well as their records during my access.db (in sendmail) ensure their messages about porn sites, spamware and other alike messages don't even reach hard of hearing ears (or blind eyes), a smaller amount fall in it. The MAPS RBL works exactly the same function for the other junk e-mail havens I'm not aware of.

Sunday evening would be a time I possibly could always rely on getting junk e-mail before, but earlier this Sunday was unadventurous and that i anticipate a lot more days much like it.

It feels so excellent to become junk e-mail free!

Anybody using their own server could achieve similar cutbacks, even without using any RBL. Just using RSS and DUL will block just about all junk e-mail with nary anxiety that legitimate e-mail is going to be impaired by any means. For individuals outside, direct spammers, adding these to access.db (or even the equivalent for other mail transport programs) can provide you with your personal personalized RBL type list.

You are able to can that junk e-mail!

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Sure you are not really a salesperson under that scuba gear?

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Annette
Hosting Matters, Corporation.
http://www.hostmatters.com
Not a chance, just discussing information and encounters, helping others eliminate the sourge from the Internet. Besides, it's difficult to sell a totally free service. Not possible, just hard.

A great salesperson sell a refrigerator to Eskimos. A great salesperson will even sell them an ice maker!

Besides, the only real bubbles I blow are within the water (including within the bath tub if I have had a lot of beans). :-D

Among divers, coming bubbles (inside a certain context, like topside) is really a term similar to coming smoke (or distributing manure). However, you will know. -)

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