Hello All,

I''m getting some issues with my present host and am considering switching.
I want a number that does outgoing mail, ideally with php/mysql along with a fair quantity of space. I love http://www.linuxwebhost.com/ however they do not have outgoing mail.
Has anybody attempted FatCow -- their claims look great. Thank you for any help,

mgbIII
Initially published by malcolm:
Hello All,

I''m getting some issues with my present host and am considering switching.
I want a number that does outgoing mail, ideally with php/mysql along with a fair quantity of space. I love http://www.linuxwebhost.com/ however they do not have outgoing mail.
Has anybody attempted FatCow -- their claims look great. Thank you for any help,

mgbIII
It has been certainly one of my large hosting problems...My Web service provider will not let me use their SMTP unless of course I host together @ 30$ per month per domain!..allow me to think! NO LOL

My current host gave me all of the features you're searching for http://www.veoweb.net

Best Of Luck
Dana

Initially published by malcolm:
http://www.linuxwebhost.com/

Although Ive not used at all them they're possessed through the same guy who is the owner of http://www.sitehost4u.com now I've had an issue with them...My computer crashed I had been offline for 7 several weeks I stored getting my buddies send them an email and that i stored calling no reply they closed my account so when Used to do return my domain had been utilized by someone else..which means sitehost4u been with them to ensure that whenever you typed my domain it visited another domain..it had been chaos and Ive seen a lot of bad reviews about the subject (sitehost4u.com)since Id be cautious basically was you.


[This message continues to be edited by Dana (edited 08-13-2000).]
Hi Dana,

Thank you for a fast reply. I am searching at Veo now. What they can control panel is nearly exactly like linuxwebhost and the majority of the features look exactly the same too. You are sure they offer outgoing mail? They're a little more costly but provide extra space. Another feature I would like is several ftp access. I would like my customers to have the ability to upload their very own files to their personal sites i.e. ftp://user@domain.com, and also to have the ability to restrict them by setting their ftp root directory.

I believe your condition with host4you or whatever was unique. Not too I do not agree they have you wrong. I'm still undecided, but at this time it appears I might have to leave Webhosting.com.

Many thanks for the replies, they're useful. I'll wait for couple of more before
jumping.

regards,

mgbIII
Initially published by malcolm:
Hi Dana,

Thank you for a fast reply. I am searching at Veo now. What they can control panel is nearly exactly like linuxwebhost and the majority of the features look exactly the same too. You are sure they offer outgoing mail? They're a little more costly but provide extra space. Another feature I would like is several ftp access. I would like my customers to have the ability to upload their very own files to their personal sites i.e. ftp://user@domain.com, and also to have the ability to restrict them by setting their ftp root directory.

I believe your condition with host4you or whatever was unique. Not too I do not agree they have you wrong. I'm still undecided, but at this time it appears I might have to leave Webhosting.com.

Many thanks for the replies, they're useful. I'll wait for couple of more before
jumping.

regards,

mgbIII
Yup I know they are doing since i make use of the out going mail from my domain(s) ..you can always email support@veoweb.net to verify additionally they make coustom plans.

Best of luck inside your decision ..I understand how hard it may be Ive been through 9 hosts in 20 several weeks.

Malcolm, Veo has the majority of their plans located with an Alabanza server, like linuxwebhost, and that's why a lot of things might look familiar for you. Outgoing SMTP happens to be a adhering point with any Alabanza-based host, because of the version of sendmail installed. However, the brand new boxes establishing in the Alabanza NOC possess the more recent version, which enables outgoing mail to become sent after your mail is checked. Older boxes may also be upgraded beginning soon, based on some info, so after a little it will not be an problem. Furthermore, although some hosts will not get it done, outgoing relays could be setup by hand for individual customers. Regrettably, this will get rather tiresome after some time if you will find a lot of them to setup, and that's why some hosts just will not.

If you are otherwise happy, you might like to request them if they'd setup outgoing for you personally by hand until any upgrades are complete.

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Annette
Hosting Matters, Corporation.
http://www.hostmatters.com

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Initially published by Dana:
[B] It has been certainly one of my large hosting problems...My Web service provider will not let me use their SMTP unless of course I host together @ 30$ per month per domain!..allow me to think! NO LOL
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@home does not take either ,afaik
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My current host gave me all of the features you're searching for [URL=http://www.veoweb.net]http://www.veoweb.internet

One trouble here ... no php ? &lt/?&gt

regards


mgbIII
Initially published by malcolm:
[b]Initially published by Dana:
It has been certainly one of my large hosting problems...My Web service provider will not let me use their SMTP unless of course I host together @ 30$ per month per domain!..allow me to think! NO LOL

At the end from the index page at Veo it states run by PHP3 for those who have questions you can send mail for them to verify

I simply requested Technical support plus they stated they are doing support PHP their current email address is support@veoweb.internet


[This message continues to be edited by Dana (edited 08-13-2000).]
Initially published by Annette:
Malcolm, Veo has the majority of their plans located with an Alabanza server, like linuxwebhost. Outgoing SMTP happens to be a adhering point with any Alabanza-based host, because of the version of sendmail installed. However, the brand new boxes establishing in the Alabanza NOC possess the more recent version, which enables outgoing mail to become sent after your mail is checked. Older boxes may also be upgraded beginning soon, based on some info, so after a little it will not be an problem. Furthermore, although some hosts will not get it done, outgoing relays could be setup by hand for individual customers. Regrettably, this will get rather tiresome after some time if you will find a lot of them to setup, and that's why some hosts just will not.

If you are otherwise happy, you might like to request them if they'd setup outgoing for you personally by hand until any upgrades are complete.
Thanks Annnette,

Sendmail should will always be this way anyway.

I simply checked out veo and was disapointed not to find php. Are you aware associated with a companies
while using new servers you talk about?
Are you aware anything about FatCow.com?
They talk a great game.

regards,

mgbIII
Well, sendmail (like anything else) is definitely a piece happening.

POP auth before SMTP did not arrive until 8.10, though, therefore it is hard to choose from an empty relay that any spammer can use, and closed relays automatically, that was implemented in 8.8, In my opinion. Closed relays are certainly better, for me. I do not mind opening relays by hand if that's what must be done to prevent spammers.

php3 is presently on any Alabanza host. php4 w/Zend has become on the more recent boxes. Off the top my mind I am unsure who's around the new boxes and who is not.

FatCow I have never heard about, however i such as the title. Searching at their website, it seems they need a one-year minimum contract, that is something that many people would resist. However, they are not offering "unlimited" traffic, that is good, since there's no such factor.

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Annette
Hosting Matters, Corporation.
http://www.hostmatters.com
Initially published by Dana:
after i did return my domain had been utilized by someone else..which means sitehost4u been with them to ensure that whenever you typed my domain it visited another domain..
I simply desired to comment that even though you stated they never came back your friend's emails nor your calls (this is not good whatsoever!), probably there is no evil plot to consider over your domain.

Odds are, they erased your bank account from the server, *but* didn't remember to remove the entry business nameservers. The brand new domain was simply making use of your old account's space.

Again, to not remove from bad customer support that will have prevented this, wanted to show you I doubt it was area of the evil plot to ruin you

I simply requested Technical support plus they stated they are doing support PHP their current email address is support@veoweb.internet


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Many thanks Dana,

I had been searching in the August special
also it does not mention php. I have written to
support having a couple of questions. Interesting help.
Initially published by Chicken:
I simply desired to comment that even though you stated they never came back your friend's emails nor your calls (this is not good whatsoever!), probably there is no evil plot to consider over your domain.

Odds are, they erased your bank account from the server, *but* didn't remember to remove the entry business nameservers. The brand new domain was simply making use of your old account's space.

Again, to not remove from bad customer support that will have prevented this, wanted to show you I doubt it was area of the evil plot to ruin you
I figured that that to untill checking this "other" domain that you simply were delivered to whenever you entered my domain names letters but when you looked on their own page they really were using my domain names letters not only the IP they'd links on their own site using my domain names letters to pages on their own site. It had been chaos...oui! still it affects my mind

Initially published by Annette:
Well, sendmail (like anything else) is definitely a piece happening.

POP auth before SMTP did not arrive until 8.10, though, therefore it is hard to choose from an empty relay that any spammer can use, and closed relays automatically, that was implemented in 8.8, In my opinion.
Minor points: it had been sendmail 8.9.3 where closed relays grew to become the default and POP authorization before SMTP can be done by using it. DI has 8.9.3 (though I upgraded mine) on their own servers and it has POP before SMTP. Closed relays are certainly better because they thwart the efforts of nearly all spammers. Based on the Internet Mail Consortium, in The month of january 1998, 55% of Internet mail servers were susceptible to unauthorized 3rd party relay (relay rape). By This summer, which was lower to 36%. Annually later, This summer 1999, it had dropped to just about 17%.

Progress has been made. Nearly all open relays appear to stay in servers in Asia and Europe, particularly in China (Taiwan), Korea and japan. Without doubt, they take into account a sizable share from the 17% of servers which are still vulnerable.
Used to do some poking about FatCow I have no idea what it really means but here's what I discovered.

After I used my little program(ghost) to determine who FatCow's IP belonged to I acquired dummy.nwrks.internet

and so i visited http://www.nwrks.net/

and it is a number so Im thinkin FatCow is really a merchant

Hope it will help



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Initially published by Duster:
Progress has been made. Nearly all open relays appear to stay in servers in Asia and Europe, particularly in China (Taiwan), Korea and japan. Without doubt, they take into account a sizable share from the 17% of servers which are still vulnerable.
Now that anybody could possibly get free server software and do the installation is contributing to the issue I understood somebody who installed a totally free server sofware pakage and world client for email I attempted to inform him he required to clost the SMTP or restrict it towards the customers IP # he didnt think it an issue untill I sent mail through his SMTP from a merchant account off his network to prove my point....I went right into a problem after i was located at nomonthlyfees (Yikes just recognized Ive had 10 hosts in 20 several weeks not 9 ya know its bad whenever you cant count the number of hosts youve had LOL) where somewhere known as Orbs (I believe which was its title) had the SMTP originating from that IP blocked...it required several weeks to repair it and that i was high and dry. Im really happy there's a method to offer SMTP now


Initially published by Duster:
Minor points: it had been sendmail 8.9.3 where closed relays grew to become the default and POP authorization before SMTP can be done by using it. DI has 8.9.3 (though I upgraded mine) on their own servers and it has POP before SMTP.
Thanks, Duster - 8.9.3. Could not remember which release which was. However, overlooking the fabric at hands, and reading through Claus, et al in comp.security.sendmail didn't lead me to think that POP auth was achievable in 8.9.3. Are you able to point me with a paperwork for your? Thanks.



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Annette
Hosting Matters, Corporation.
http://www.hostmatters.com
The only real factor I've, Annette, is from DI's FAQ:
To be able to prevent spammers by using your server to junk e-mail others on the web, we've implemented what we should call the "POP-AUTH" authentication plan to handle who reaches send email out using your email server.

To be able to send email out, you'll want formerly authenticated using the mailer daemon. To be able to do that, look at your email via POP3, and wait a minute for that mailer daemon to update. When the a minute are gone, anybody hooking up out of your Ip will have the ability to make use of the mailer daemon like a relay for two hrs. After two hrs, the Ip wlil be "unauthenticated", and you'll have to repeat the process.
They're still using 8.9.3 and that i been with them until lately, after i upgraded.

Dana,

It is right. ORBS is yet another organization that helps in obstructing junk e-mail. Their service is comparable to MAPS RSS and RBL by having an important distinction. MAPS only lists open relays which have spammed. ORBS includes all open relays, whether junk e-mail has spewed from (or through) them.

Incidentally, which was an individual observation of mine regarding junk e-mail from Asia and Europe. Until I enabled MAPS features nearly two days ago, the majority of the junk e-mail I'd received recently was from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and mostly Easter time European nations (though I acquired one junk e-mail from Germany). Only one time have I become the best e-mail in the .jp (Japan) country domain. Not have I become any from Taiwan or Korea, only junk e-mail. I understand some servers block all mail from Taiwan, that is a little drastic, though I'm able to understand their feelings.

Malcolm,
Please let'sOrme understand how you constructed...getting a host could be a very frustruating task .
olm
Initially published by Dana:
Malcolm,
Please let'sOrme understand how you constructed...getting a host could be a very frustruating task .
Hi Dana,

I sure will Dana. I actually do thank you for input and such as this forum too. I am still searching at FatCow. They're running Qmail
and smtp isn't any problem. Looks good to date, some questions have been in to aid concerning the transfer. I'll let guess what happens happens.